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CASA pops around to say hi!

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Afternoon.
Two CASA blokes decided to drop in today to say "hi" to my flying instructor. They walked their way through the office door leading through the hangar and onto airside. There they stood for 10min observing my fliying instructor performing what ever task he was at that point and I conducting a pre flight inspection of the training aircraft. Flying instructor had his ASIC clearly vsible and I did not have mine as it is yet to be issued. Flying Instructor was walking away from the training aircraft, with me still performing the checks, towards the hangar when he was stopped in his path by CASA and was asked as to why he had not challenged them and requested their identification. Both the FI and I were about 15m seperated when he was stopped and questioned. Anyhow, CASA advised my FI that as I had not yet received an ASIC that a visitors pass should have been issued as well as of course him having to be basically holding my hand and not be seperated. I should have been under closer escort. My FI questioned their advice re Visitors Pass but CASA was certain it was a requirement.

I have not been able to locate any legislation stating that an individual under escort of an ASIC holder requires a visitors pass. I should think that no such legislation exists.

Also why would the FI need to challenge EVERY individual that uses the hangar, accesses airside etc. Are ASIC holders expected to question passenger movements too.
They have an ASIC so who cares?

Have you heard of such a request before?

Chris
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Richard replied the topic: Re: CASA pops around to say hi!

Hi Chris,

The regs regarding ASICs, VICs, supervision etc are to be found in the Aviation Transport Security Regulations: http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Series/F2005L00366

Check out ATSR Part 6 Division 6.5 Subdivision 6.5.2 para 6.38 for more specific info on the expected format of VICs.

I have not been able to locate any legislation stating that an individual under escort of an ASIC holder requires a visitors pass. I should think that no such legislation exists.

Try digging around in that document I mentioned. There's also some stuff in there about hand-holding VICs: ATSR Part 3 Division 3.2 Subdivision 3.2.1 para 3.09 (2).

Cheers,

Rich
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jerrajerra replied the topic: Re: CASA pops around to say hi!

Hi Richard, thanks! :blush:
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captainellzy replied the topic: Re: CASA pops around to say hi!

Are these VIC's readily and freely available from CASA? What a jip. Well done though Richard for even knowing about this!
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Richard replied the topic: Re: CASA pops around to say hi!

It would appear you need to be an authorised issuing body to be allowed to issue visitors permits. No good just cutting out some bits of yellow cardboard and pinning them to your lapel and I doubt CASA supplies them but you'd have to check with CASA on that one.

Needless to say, this bureaucratic hoop-jumping isn't in the syllabus :P

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Rich
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